Comment from Jonathan Snook
rich: I suppose if you looked at that way, there is a cost but what is working "properly"? I've used IE6 (it was my standard browser for a long time) and it seemed to work just fine. Or are you saying...
View ArticleComment from Reg Braithwaite
"I had a product that had 90%+ market share and was something I was giving away for free, I doubt I'd be spending my money to fix it..." I agree. However, one question is: how did IE end up with 90%...
View ArticleComment from Emil
Good thoughts, but I can't agree with you at the IE point. It should have been okay if it was an external application but it isn't. It's a scary integration in my OS. I could use linux though, my point...
View ArticleComment from rich
Is it free though? It's an integral part of the Windows OS. As far as I know it's impossible / extremely hard to remove. So isn't it covered by the Windows license cost? And as such shouldn't it work...
View ArticleComment from Chris
You're absolutely right when you imagine that you'd invest as little in IE as Microsoft seems to. That's why they get so much criticism. Microsoft is supposed to be in the business of making people's...
View ArticleComment from Jonathan Snook
@Steve Stringer: For me, my laissez faire attitude comes from the context of history. The industry already had efficiency when it only had to deal with one browser that had 95% of the industry. And IE6...
View ArticleComment from Steve Stringer
You make some very good points. But I'm surprised and your position. Not for not being in the hate-Microsoft camp, but for seeming to accept without complaint how unbelievably--and...
View ArticleComment from kiji
Does being the marketleader give you the right or panache to ignore set standards? What if the Toyota or Nissan, who, for explaining our point, we'll say are the undisputed marketleaders, decide to...
View ArticleComment from Yuval Raz
this is particulary a problem where i work - Israel. since IE was the first browser to support right to left coding and visual hebrew, it has taken, and still occupies up to 97% of the market share in...
View ArticleComment from Jeremy
All I know is that with this IE problem (which I think IE is stupid, but not because of CSS) it gives me more job security. If everyone knew how to get around it, then I wouldn't get paid what I do.
View ArticleComment from Olly
"are you saying that because you've paid for the product, it should therefore comply with any and all third party specifications?" Yes, if said product claims to support a standard, then it should...
View ArticleComment from ChadL
@joel: doctypes can aide in legacy support Ever used a faucet where hot was on the right and cold was on the left? Damn frustrating experience isn't it? Much like developing a rich internet application...
View ArticleComment from joel
The legacy problem is why MS can never (imho) actually produce a good browser. Period. Legacy systems are a developers worse nightmare, and I will have to say, due to the lack of updates to IE over the...
View ArticleComment from Bernhard Welzel
I will never understand why microsoft fails to "fix" the ie (even with 7.x). there is no reason why they canĀ“t make ie all this w3c-css-standard-loving piece of software opera or firefox ist today. as...
View ArticleComment from Ismael
Yes, I had to apply minor fixes to different browsers (Ok, Safari's javascript leaves much to desire), but all fixes where pretty much related, had a clear cause and obey to documented interpretations...
View ArticleComment from Jonathan Snook
Ismael: but you only paint part of the picture. Does it work in Safari and Opera? Did you test and fix issues in all browsers but IE during development and only try to fix IE at the end? Part of...
View ArticleComment from Ismael
I'm shocked! Sure, IE is alright for everyday CSS / Javascript tasks, but I just spent two weeks working in a complex RIA-style interface (Javascript, fixed-positioning, Ajax, you name it). The first...
View ArticleComment from adam
Arguing is what makes the world spin! Nothing like a good argument to brighten up a day. Macs are great, windows suck, firefox is the best, internet explorer is crap LETS ARGUE!
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