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Comment from rich

Is it free though? It's an integral part of the Windows OS. As far as I know it's impossible / extremely hard to remove. So isn't it covered by the Windows license cost? And as such shouldn't it work...

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Comment from Emil

Good thoughts, but I can't agree with you at the IE point. It should have been okay if it was an external application but it isn't. It's a scary integration in my OS. I could use linux though, my point...

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Comment from Reg Braithwaite

"I had a product that had 90%+ market share and was something I was giving away for free, I doubt I'd be spending my money to fix it..." I agree. However, one question is: how did IE end up with 90%...

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Comment from Jonathan Snook

rich: I suppose if you looked at that way, there is a cost but what is working "properly"? I've used IE6 (it was my standard browser for a long time) and it seemed to work just fine. Or are you saying...

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Comment from Frode Danielsen

Like Emil, I agree with everything but your IE point. I think I'll take a quite opposite "extreme" POV to make my case then: the WWW is not about making money, it is not a commercial product/service....

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Comment from Carson McComas

Oh Snook, stop with your fair, rational and well reasoned thoughts, this is the intarweb!

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Comment from Bernie Zimmermann

IE still sucks though, right? ;)

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Comment from Nate K

I agree with all but the IE points. Unfortunately, many users think IE IS the Internet, and have no idea you can use another browser. So, out of the box, an everyday user doesn't know that they have...

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Comment from kimblim

Reg: What monopoly are you talking about? The monopoly they "earned" by making software that was either better or easier to use than that of their competitors? It's not like all governments across the...

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Comment from Jonathan Snook

I seriously don't mind IE6. In IE7, alpha png and fixed positioning were my two biggest desires. I'd still like display:table but I've been able to live without it. Take a look at the CSS for this site...

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Comment from acts_as_flinn

flame bate! The problem with your argument seems to me that since IE is included with Windows it isn't really free. It is a part of the operating system that they claim to support. My biggest problem...

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Comment from James Mathias

What I find intriguing is that no one got the point of this article... lol.

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Comment from WB

I guess it is good to have opinions but bad to be opinioniated.

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Comment from Emil

James: That is all people here is telling Jonathan tha answer on his topic "Aren't people tired of arguing?". And as you may have seen, the answer is No! ... haha

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Comment from Thomas Messier

I think it would be nice for IE to comply with standards for the simple fact that I think it would make their offering better and more customers happy. The average user wouldn't see the difference (no...

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Comment from Aaron Martone

Does Microsoft owe us a standards compliant browser? No. (Heck, I don't think they could do it if they want) But it's not the public's responsibility for progressing the web; that responsibility falls...

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Comment from joel

A few concepts have been brought up here. #1: IE is not "free" when it is an embedded part of the system. This is on the user side. One should also consider the cost from a developer side to determine...

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Comment from Jonathan Snook

joel: well, certainly any product has a level of 'cost' to produce anything within the environment of that product. However, there's really no accurate way to create a measurable cost that would be...

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Comment from Ed

If I was head of IE, I wouldn't fix it. Biggest market share, most of the web is accessible through it, it's the most forgiving browser, it's quick, it's reliable, it can be integrated seamlessly into...

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Comment from Johan

Arguing but what is the use? IE WIN is hopping along, and we have to ride along. It is a company, and decides itself. Though the law is not really helpful, especially for the little man!

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